400ft-lbs of Torque?

SHO Dude · #1 03-03-2010, 08:12 AM

http://www.shoforum.com/showthread.php?t=106885

This can be done on a Gen III as well.

Any takers?

St Louis SHO · #2 03-03-2010, 10:29 AM

I'm doing one right now.

93rev2sev · #3 03-03-2010, 10:32 AM

Does the install come with a wavetracked 3.2MTX swap?

SHO Dude · #4 03-03-2010, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by 93rev2sev

Does the install come with a wavetracked 3.2MTX swap?

If you want it too...

Anything is possible given enough time and money.

Izzmo · #5 03-03-2010, 12:24 PM

Yeah.. on a gen3? I don't think the tranny would last long.

Be pretty sweet though.

luigisho · #6 03-03-2010, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Izzmo

Yeah.. on a gen3? I don't think the tranny would last long.

Be pretty sweet though.

It wouldn't last long on any old ATX SHO. But then you go back to FPS and get a beefed up one... or you get it at the same time. Good business sense. Also the cost to play.

Izzmo · #7 03-03-2010, 01:38 PM

I don't think the shift kit will help. I mean.. you would have to beef up all the planetary disk's and the braking plates along with it for it to last longer... I mean.. think about it.. ~400 ft/pounds.. that's essentially 100% increase in torque.

luigisho · #8 03-03-2010, 01:44 PM

I think Doug uses a little valve body voodoo and other tricks but yes ~400 ft/lbs is alot. It may be less bad if the power comes on later in the power band vs from a start. Surely true for MTX, probably true for ATX.

Izzmo · #9 03-03-2010, 01:53 PM

You make a good point. I guess it's just a matter of waiting until someone does it and see how it does.

-DVP- · #10 03-03-2010, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Izzmo

You make a good point. I guess it's just a matter of waiting until someone blows their shit up

Fixed

Izzmo · #11 03-04-2010, 12:10 AM

lol.. well that's what I was alluding too.

rick-ng · #12 03-04-2010, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SHO Dude

http://www.shoforum.com/showthread.php?t=106885

This can be done on a Gen III as well.

Any takers?

What would a "kit" like that cost....not including install??

somedude_001 · #13 03-05-2010, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by -DVP-

Fixed

i don't know how much first hand exp you have with the ATX and their ability to hold power, but if you don't get stupid with boost they will hold 6-8psi just fine as long as you don't over heat them. I can't comment on the V8 engine because I have no first hand exp with them.

And yes 6-8 psi is a lot of fun to kick around with.

E1 v2 · #14 03-05-2010, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by somedude_001

i don't know how much first hand exp you have with the ATX and their ability to hold power, but if you don't get stupid with boost they will hold 6-8psi just fine as long as you don't over heat them. I can't comment on the V8 engine because I have no first hand exp with them.

And yes 6-8 psi is a lot of fun to kick around with.

With a positive displacement blower, and the early onset low end grunt, my stock tranny lasted only 160 miles.

I'd expect a later boost onset - like a turbo or centrifugal supercharger - to be more gentle on the trans, but not to the point where I'd expect it to survive for much longer.
Especially on a well worn trans. TQ converter doesn't stand much of a chance either.

somedude_001 · #15 03-05-2010, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by E1 v2

With a positive displacement blower, and the early onset low end grunt, my stock tranny lasted only 160 miles.

I'd expect a later boost onset - like a turbo or centrifugal supercharger - to be more gentle on the trans, but not to the point where I'd expect it to survive for much longer.
Especially on a well worn trans. TQ converter doesn't stand much of a chance either.

to be fair driving style has a huge factor in its lifespan. To be perfectly honest I think it is a decent transmission but I DON'T think it was at all designed for high rpm. All of the transmissions in my car shift harder at 5500 or 6K than at 7 and they shift horribly slow at 7500+. So with that theory your PD blower probably extended the life of your tranny because you probably didn't wind out the engine like I do with my big turbo.

Siman · #16 03-06-2010, 08:42 AM

mazda 6 tranny? with work done from the people at the mazda forums?

rick-ng · #17 03-08-2010, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by E1 v2

With a positive displacement blower, and the early onset low end grunt, my stock tranny lasted only 160 miles.

I'd expect a later boost onset - like a turbo or centrifugal supercharger - to be more gentle on the trans, but not to the point where I'd expect it to survive for much longer.
Especially on a well worn trans. TQ converter doesn't stand much of a chance either.

What about with a built tranny? Mine was rebuilt with heavy Duty internals...

somedude_001 · #18 03-08-2010, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rick-ng

What about with a built tranny? Mine was rebuilt with heavy Duty internals...

doug from FPS (SHO Dude) told me to not run more than 8psi if I wanted a reliable fun setup. 4 transmissions and 40K (miles) later I realize that I should have listened. from what I have learned our transmissions are just not up to taking a huge amount of power. 8psi is a blast to drive. it is not 400tq but it will keep a smile on your face and that little turbo would probably do well through the top end too at the lower boost.