Transmission service

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  1. Big Mike 74

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    My 2013 pp is getting up there in mileage and I have never done a tranny service and I am by no means easy on the car LOL ......anyone know how many qts it is just for the service? I know the fill is where the dipstick is under air box but I assume their is a plug to drain the fluid since it doesn't seem like you can drop the pan etc.... any help would be great thanks!
     
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    If you are doing a single drain and fill, have at least 6 quarts of new fluid on hand. Yes there is a drain plug in the trans. 3x drain and fill will change out 87% of the fluid.
     
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    Using the drain will empty the pan but you will still retain a lot of fluid in the torque converter. The couple times I've changed mine it has drained out almost exactly 5.5 quarts so I always pick up 6 like SHOdded stated.
     
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    What fluid does it take and thanks for the advice!
     
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    Mercon LV. If you are only doing a single D/F, I would stick with Motorcraft brand. If you are going to do the 3x D/F, you can choose other brands from other brands that state compatibility with Mercon LV, or are certified to Mercon LV standards. bpd uses Motorcaft fluid, and changes the fluid yearly, IIRC.
     
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    Does Amsoil or Redline make an ATF that meets the Mercon LV spec?
     
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    I don't think either is "certified" for Mercon LV, but yes, they do have products you can use.

    Amsoil Signature Fuel Efficient Recommended for vehicles requiring GM DEXRON® VI, Ford MERCON® LV and SP, Honda DW-1, Nissan Matic-S and Toyota WS fluid specifications.
    http://www.amsoil.com/shop/find/product/atlqt-ea/
    http://www.amsoil.com/lookup/auto-a...s/3-5l-6-cyl-engine-code-t-t-turbo/us-volume/

    Redline D6 ATF
    https://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=115&pcid=9
    https://www.redlineoil.com/application.aspx
     
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    How much run time/miles durin each of the 3x d/f on the trans fluid? Thanks
     
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    Only 87%?? Not 88% or 86%


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    Minimal needed. The important thing is to row through all the gears, sitting 30 seconds or so in each gear. This makes sure all the fluid is getting mixed before you perform the next drain/fill. You don't HAVE to actually drive in between D/Fs, but then make sure the fluid is warmed up (I'd say 150F or above so the thermostatic valve is open) before each D/F.
     
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    Anyone have a picture where the drain plug is so I don't have to remove my belly pan to go look?

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    Transmission drain plug

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    Yes! I do.

    In this image below, it is the bolt to the right of (& lower than) where you see the brass fitting, with wiring harness I used for my Trans Temp Gauge.

    [​IMG]

    This picture is standing at the driver's side, and looking towards the passenger side if you need a point of reference.

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    Thanks Mike.. [​IMG]

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    Yes, the one you have circled is correct, and my pleasure.

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    The number 87 was always an inside joke on one of the other forums I used to frequent often.
     
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    I always assumed it was the statistical breakdown of swap. When doing a drain and refill you only replace 1/2 the fluid. So with one swap you move to a 50/50 fluid (new/used). Then a second fluid sway you remove 1/2 of that mixture and add new fluids (results in a 75/25 fluid). Then after the third refill you end up with 87.5% new fluid. That assumes you replace exactly 1/2 the fluid every time and everything gets mixed completely. But that was just my assumption on where the number came from.
     
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    Here is my 16 SHO transaxle. This picture is from front to rear. Is that small plug I have circled the drain plug? It looks like 10mm and I thought the drain would have been larger.[​IMG]

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    Looks like it, and yes, it is a small drain plug, and does take time to "empty" out.

    Tighten to 9 Nm (80 lb-in).
     
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